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Second Fire

Fire, bliss and the are ot thriving through perimenopause

An 8-week Ayurvedic program for women 40–60

You're not falling apart.
You're catching fire.

Perimenopause and menopause aren't the beginning of the end.

They're the Second Fire — and everything depends on how you tend it.

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First cohort — 15 women only.

Opening soon.

Sound familiar?

You've been doing everything right.

So why does your body feel like a stranger?

- - You're googling your symptoms at 2am, trying to make sense of what's happening to you
  - You sat across from a doctor who handed you a prescription with almost no conversation — and left with more fear than you arrived with
  - You're not sure if HRT is right for you, but nobody's offering you a real alternative
  - You're exhausted, foggy, running hot, and trying to power through like everything's fine
  - Underneath all of it is a quieter fear: that the woman you've been is somehow disappearing — and that this is just what aging looks like now

That fear is real.

And it's also not the full story.

The Ayurvedic perspective

What if your symptoms aren't a

malfunction?
What if they're a message?

Ayurveda — a 5,000-year-old system of whole-body medicine —

doesn't view menopause as a hormone deficiency to be corrected.

It views it as one of life's most significant transitions:

from the active Pitta phase into the wise, vital Vata phase.

"Your symptoms are not your sentence. They are your

body asking for a different kind of nourishment."

Hot flashes, disrupted sleep, mood shifts, brain fog — these aren't inevitable.

They're signs of accumulated imbalance. And they are addressable — not with

a prescription, but with the intelligent daily practices

your body has been waiting for you to learn.

MEET YOUR GUIDE

I walked this path.
I left some notes along the way.

I've been studying how the body stays vital since I was 18 — not in a clinical way, but in a what does this body need to thrive for the next 70 years kind of way. I moved, I breathed, I ate carefully. I studied behavioral psychology. I watched how mindset shaped health as much as anything I put in my mouth.

And then I found Ayurveda — and it already knew everything I'd been slowly piecing together on my own.

When my own transition came, I took the curious approach. I didn't buy into the horror story. I'd built a foundation, and I wanted to see if it would hold. It held. I came out the other side feeling clearer, quieter, and more grounded than I had in years.

Not because I was lucky. Because I did the work. And I also sat in enough conventional medical offices — as a patient, as an observer — to know that most women are not being given the whole picture. They're being handed a solution before anyone has asked the right questions.

I'm not the hero of this story. You are. I'm just the one who's walked a little further down this particular path — and left some notes along the way. Consider this your invitation.

Second fire

In Ayurveda, Agni is the sacred fire of transformation. Ananda is the bliss waiting on the other side of it.

This transition is asking you to tend your fire — not extinguish it. You are not falling apart. You are becoming. Bliss.

Eight weeks. Seven pillars.
One completely different relationship with your body.

This isn't a course you watch passively. It's a live, guided transformation — small group,

deeply personal, rooted in the oldest system of whole-body medicine on earth.

Combined with behavioral psychology. Designed for the Western woman who is done

with one-size-fits-all solutions.

Pillar 1 - Know yourself

Your dosha is the lens for everything. Understanding your constitution changes how you interpret every symptom.

Pillar 2 - Live by rhythm

Dinacharya — daily routine — is the single most powerful hormonal stabilizer available to you. And it's free.

Pillar 3 - Shift the story

The narrative you hold about this transition shapes your physical experience. We rewrite it — with behavioral science behind us.

Pillar 4 - Eat for the transition

What nourished you at 35 is not what your body needs now. Food becomes intelligent medicine — by constitution, by season.

Pillar 5 - Calm the fire

Your adrenals are your new hormone producers. Protecting them — through breathwork, oil, rhythm — changes everything downstream.

Pillar 6 - Move with intelligence

More intensity is not the answer in this phase. The right movement — matched to your constitution — is medicine.

Pillar 7 - Build your Ojas

Ojas is the Ayurvedic force of deep vitality — immunity, radiance, resilience. The long game. Vibrant aging. The whole point.

INSIDE THE PROGRAM

Eight weeks, three phases,
one woman on the other side.

Phase 1
Foundation

Weeks 1–3 — Know yourself - The Ayurvedic reframe · Your constitution · The psychology of transition

Phase 2
Practice

Weeks 4–6 — Build the body - Hot seat coaching · Daily rhythm + nourishment · Nervous system + breathwork

Phase 3
Integration

Weeks 7–8 — Build your fire - Movement + Ojas · Your personal Second Fire protocol · Graduation

Mix of live teaching calls and intimate hot seat coaching weeks — 75 minutes each, recorded, uploaded to your private community.

Whats included?

Everything you need.

Nothing you don't.

8 live sessions

Teaching weeks and hot seat coaching — 75 min each. All recorded and available in your Skool community.

Private community

Daily connection, weekly practices, peer support, and guidance between calls. 30 days post-program included.

Dosha assessment

Your personal constitutional blueprint — the foundation every other pillar is built on.

Your personal protocol

You leave week 8 with a written, dosha-specific daily practice designed for your body, your life. Not a template. Yours.

FIRST COHORT BONUSES

Because cohort one deserves something extra!😊

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The Second Fire Starter Guide

A beautiful pre-program guide delivered on enrollment — dosha overview, what to prepare, what to expect. You hit week 1 already oriented.

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One private 1:1 clarity call (30 min)

A personal session with me, scheduled in weeks 3–5. Your constitution, your symptoms, your questions. First cohort only — this won't be included at this price point again.

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Seasonal eating guide by dosha

A simple, beautiful reference you'll return to for years — what to eat, what to reduce, what to add, every season, matched to your constitution.

The Investment

Eight weeks that change
the next thirty years.

$777

One-time investment

· 15 women maximum

· First cohort only at this price

This is not the cheapest path. It's the most intelligent one. You are not here for a quick fix. You are here to build a practice that serves you for the rest of your life — and to do it inside a small community of women who are choosing the same.

What women say about working with Debbie.

As an active 60ish year old woman, I had been struggling with some of the effects of menopause; brain fog, weight gain, sluggishness and digestive issues. Working with Deb and following only two of her recommendations has made a huge difference and three years later it is still as beneficial as month one. Three years ago I began drinking three glasses of warm lemon water first thing in the morning, then doing at least 15 minutes of exercise to start the day. These two habits have given me an increase in energy, decreased and most of the time eliminated the brain fog, improved my digestive system and helped the extra weight stay off. As a Coach Deb listened to my concerns, and suggested doable daily changes that I continue three years later.

—Lori Boyko

"Blissful Habits (from Debs previous program) with health coach Debbie Johnson has made a big difference in what I thought was a good life. Focusing on 10 key habits has made a quality difference in everyday living for me. I have struggled with digestion issues for many years. I had accepted that it's the way life is. Well, I discovered it doesn't have to be an issue. One of the habits alone changed my digestive system and the way I handle food and diet ... And there's 9 more Life Changing Habits. Truly worth the course. I'm 70 now, and I feel greater than ever! This program will change your life."

—Barb Olyniuk

SECOND FIRE

"This is not the end of you.

This is the Second fire. "

Are you ready to join us?

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The waitlist is free and non-binding. You'll receive a warm welcome and some genuinely useful insights over the coming days - no pressure, no hard sell. Just real information to help you decide.

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